[translation attempt] MORE It #84 hitori
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I have been busy with real live lately, but I was thinking of refreshing by translating another It. A friend requested for this one and helped me with the scan (because I don't even make time to go to the library to read the magazine and the combini around me only have the edition with bag).
This comes out faster than I thought before, but there still might be misinterpretation. Feel free to reuse the translation, but if you translate it to another language, please tell me ^^. Enjoy!!
It #84 hitori*
Born in Tokyo, raised in entertainment world.
Although he is always surrounded by a lot of people,
most of the time his stance is always being solitary.
He wholeheartedly taking a one-way conviction.
In a raining autumn night. Right before us, Tokyo Tower stands tall. That shape somehow looks lonely, yet sensual. [Tokyo Tower, I have never come here in private.]
He laughs as he has no feeling nor thoughts on the tower, even though it also stands as Tokyo's symbol.
[I was born and raised in Tokyo, and I only know this place. I never deliberately think about Tokyo.]
Tokyo is a kind city to live alone. Everything is compact and it's efficient, even though in the crowd, there are many of people who are alone. However, if you cannot stand the isolation that you feel because are left alone in Tokyo, there are many people who go home to their hometowns.
[Whether you fit or not for Tokyo, I think it depends on how long you live here and your mentality. If you continue to live with resolution, I believe anywhere can be your locality.]
For him it is similar with the entertainment world, that even in impregnetable places "home is where you make it".
[It's only if you have the chance to enter entertainment world, so to say. But don't you think that whatever world it is, the longer you stay, the easier it is to stay there? If you have got here with all the trouble, people who doesn't feel fitting to live this world and keeps on complaining, should just hurry and quit. Worrying whether you are cut to do something or not is being lazy, not being modest. It is rude to those who does not have to chance to enter this world. Because the extend of being here, is only that moment, doing what you can do....]
Whether you can survive Tokyo's entertainment world depends on yourself. It is important to have the ability to endure isolation. Nino is better than others in this point.
Rather than being good to overcome loneliness, I am more being conscious of being "always alone". I like being alone, and it is comfortable. That's why, I never have the feeling of "because having a small number of friends, I'm lonely, and it is embarassing" (laughs). Ever since I was a child, everytime I have problem, I never go to anyone to consult my worries. Off course, I receive important advises from my seniors on location, but asking for consultation from myself ... things like that never happens. Trying to come to conclusion by watching your surroundings by yourself, making decisions yourself, just keep on repeating these things.]
Rather than being isolated, he is more of an emotinally reserved person. Nevertheless, as he grows older, the number of people relying on him increase. His junior, the members of Hey! Say JUMP! have gone over to his house, but does he give advice?
[Basically, we are only talking while playing games (laugh). I give advice more or less, but for me, I think because everybody has his own way of thinking and act, I cannot be a reference. For example, I can teach about basic act that happens in TV shows. But how to think on things or how to live your life, those are not things that you can teach, right? Because there is no perfect formula for those, you can only move forward with your own ideas. That's why, I guess I don't have the best to give advise.]
There are, however, people who still want to talk of their worries even though you don't give clear answers. For example, insecurities that you can't overcome alone, or secret talks about love.
[There are many people like that, right? But does pouring your heart out on insecurities or secrets really solve the problem? Maybe they just want to make their heart lighter, but I guess I never really thought of the opponent's change of mood. For example, if I listen to a very serious story of his life, what can I do for him? Although if it's just to open up their feelings, you can say "you don't have to do anything", but if I hear something, I will feel a sense of responsibility. It depends on my relation with the opponent, but it might be an ego of the speaker. And then, these few years, I never go out for drink that is not related to work as well, because I don't feel the need to chat. I'm originally the type who is fine not meeting anyone. It is fun to gather along, but after all, we don't talk about anything significant (laughs). If that's the case, then it's better to have my own time.]
He is perceived as mysterious because he does not break secrets.
When it comes to Nino, most of people who has worked with him says that he is "someone you cannot get to the bottom" or "mysterious"; he says himself, "maybe it's because I never talk about myself thoroughly."
[When I'm shooting, I naturally talk to others, but actually I don't talk at all about myself (laughs). However, when it comes to work, I will say things that needs to be discussed. For example, like during shooting or meetings, if I was told, "just do OO tentatively", I will say, "please explain clearly, don't say 'tentatively'". If we finish with "tentatively", then I don't get why we have to work together. Each staff and actors has their own thoughts, there is no way we can get to 100% conformity. However, it is important to reconcile the plans together, I believe that's the meaning of working together face to face. I think I'd like to have thorough discussion on those things. Because I want to respect that both me and my opponent as "one person", I want to positively compete thoroughly in that part (laughs).]
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* A little explanation of the title, why I kept on using "hitori" than translating it....
The title is written in hiragana 「ひとり」 which can be interpreted into different ways.
一人 : one person, alone (as in being alone, just one person), which is more the physical condition of being alone.
独り : being alone as in being solitary, single or unmarried, which I sense as more mentality of being alone.
ひとり when written in hiragana can have both meanings at the same time and can also mean either of the two (as my professor explained the difference between 街づくり、町づくり、and まちづくり, but that's a different thing).
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^___________^ feel free to discuss about Nino here. I'll be happy to read or comment back.
If you found mistakes in translating, or typos, or if I miss a part, or weird grammar, please tell me.
And thank you for reading my translation. I hope you enjoyed it.
This comes out faster than I thought before, but there still might be misinterpretation. Feel free to reuse the translation, but if you translate it to another language, please tell me ^^. Enjoy!!
It #84 hitori*
Born in Tokyo, raised in entertainment world.
Although he is always surrounded by a lot of people,
most of the time his stance is always being solitary.
He wholeheartedly taking a one-way conviction.
In a raining autumn night. Right before us, Tokyo Tower stands tall. That shape somehow looks lonely, yet sensual. [Tokyo Tower, I have never come here in private.]
He laughs as he has no feeling nor thoughts on the tower, even though it also stands as Tokyo's symbol.
[I was born and raised in Tokyo, and I only know this place. I never deliberately think about Tokyo.]
Tokyo is a kind city to live alone. Everything is compact and it's efficient, even though in the crowd, there are many of people who are alone. However, if you cannot stand the isolation that you feel because are left alone in Tokyo, there are many people who go home to their hometowns.
[Whether you fit or not for Tokyo, I think it depends on how long you live here and your mentality. If you continue to live with resolution, I believe anywhere can be your locality.]
For him it is similar with the entertainment world, that even in impregnetable places "home is where you make it".
[It's only if you have the chance to enter entertainment world, so to say. But don't you think that whatever world it is, the longer you stay, the easier it is to stay there? If you have got here with all the trouble, people who doesn't feel fitting to live this world and keeps on complaining, should just hurry and quit. Worrying whether you are cut to do something or not is being lazy, not being modest. It is rude to those who does not have to chance to enter this world. Because the extend of being here, is only that moment, doing what you can do....]
Whether you can survive Tokyo's entertainment world depends on yourself. It is important to have the ability to endure isolation. Nino is better than others in this point.
Rather than being good to overcome loneliness, I am more being conscious of being "always alone". I like being alone, and it is comfortable. That's why, I never have the feeling of "because having a small number of friends, I'm lonely, and it is embarassing" (laughs). Ever since I was a child, everytime I have problem, I never go to anyone to consult my worries. Off course, I receive important advises from my seniors on location, but asking for consultation from myself ... things like that never happens. Trying to come to conclusion by watching your surroundings by yourself, making decisions yourself, just keep on repeating these things.]
Rather than being isolated, he is more of an emotinally reserved person. Nevertheless, as he grows older, the number of people relying on him increase. His junior, the members of Hey! Say JUMP! have gone over to his house, but does he give advice?
[Basically, we are only talking while playing games (laugh). I give advice more or less, but for me, I think because everybody has his own way of thinking and act, I cannot be a reference. For example, I can teach about basic act that happens in TV shows. But how to think on things or how to live your life, those are not things that you can teach, right? Because there is no perfect formula for those, you can only move forward with your own ideas. That's why, I guess I don't have the best to give advise.]
There are, however, people who still want to talk of their worries even though you don't give clear answers. For example, insecurities that you can't overcome alone, or secret talks about love.
[There are many people like that, right? But does pouring your heart out on insecurities or secrets really solve the problem? Maybe they just want to make their heart lighter, but I guess I never really thought of the opponent's change of mood. For example, if I listen to a very serious story of his life, what can I do for him? Although if it's just to open up their feelings, you can say "you don't have to do anything", but if I hear something, I will feel a sense of responsibility. It depends on my relation with the opponent, but it might be an ego of the speaker. And then, these few years, I never go out for drink that is not related to work as well, because I don't feel the need to chat. I'm originally the type who is fine not meeting anyone. It is fun to gather along, but after all, we don't talk about anything significant (laughs). If that's the case, then it's better to have my own time.]
He is perceived as mysterious because he does not break secrets.
When it comes to Nino, most of people who has worked with him says that he is "someone you cannot get to the bottom" or "mysterious"; he says himself, "maybe it's because I never talk about myself thoroughly."
[When I'm shooting, I naturally talk to others, but actually I don't talk at all about myself (laughs). However, when it comes to work, I will say things that needs to be discussed. For example, like during shooting or meetings, if I was told, "just do OO tentatively", I will say, "please explain clearly, don't say 'tentatively'". If we finish with "tentatively", then I don't get why we have to work together. Each staff and actors has their own thoughts, there is no way we can get to 100% conformity. However, it is important to reconcile the plans together, I believe that's the meaning of working together face to face. I think I'd like to have thorough discussion on those things. Because I want to respect that both me and my opponent as "one person", I want to positively compete thoroughly in that part (laughs).]
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* A little explanation of the title, why I kept on using "hitori" than translating it....
The title is written in hiragana 「ひとり」 which can be interpreted into different ways.
一人 : one person, alone (as in being alone, just one person), which is more the physical condition of being alone.
独り : being alone as in being solitary, single or unmarried, which I sense as more mentality of being alone.
ひとり when written in hiragana can have both meanings at the same time and can also mean either of the two (as my professor explained the difference between 街づくり、町づくり、and まちづくり, but that's a different thing).
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^___________^ feel free to discuss about Nino here. I'll be happy to read or comment back.
If you found mistakes in translating, or typos, or if I miss a part, or weird grammar, please tell me.
And thank you for reading my translation. I hope you enjoyed it.
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Date: 2015-11-29 01:55 pm (UTC)Thank you sooooo much for translating it!!
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Date: 2015-11-29 05:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-29 02:29 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2015-11-29 02:30 pm (UTC)Thank you for the translation!
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Date: 2015-11-29 02:42 pm (UTC)Thank you for sharing...
When I read this article I think back about myself... just like Nino , I like to be alone.... I only have few friends.
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Date: 2015-11-29 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-29 05:56 pm (UTC)Thank you for reading the translation.
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Date: 2015-11-29 04:16 pm (UTC)I kinda feel the same about giving advice.I'm open to listening but i'm not confident in giving proper advices, also often because i feel that the person itself only wants a validation of his opinion.
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Date: 2015-11-29 05:16 pm (UTC)i find nino very responsible because he feels the weight of listening to other people's problem. ^^ but yeah, i think a lot of people talks because they need validation. i sometimes do myself. lol.
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Date: 2015-11-29 04:18 pm (UTC)Is is always good to hear him out from this article. It is like he is having a luxury facebook. So to say. :)
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Date: 2015-11-29 05:12 pm (UTC)thank you for reading ^___^
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Date: 2015-11-29 06:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-29 06:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-30 08:30 am (UTC)i guess being hurt is part of being an idol. i think even fans could be the ones who hurt him the most, to think about the expectations from fans in japan (i still think that he might not care much of reading english).
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Date: 2015-11-29 08:25 pm (UTC)Well, maybe I didn't get his point. I'm sorry.
Thank you so much for your translation.
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Date: 2015-11-30 08:21 am (UTC)I think i can understand him somehow. since he is a public figure, anything he does/say might affect him and people around him. And drinking for work includes when their senpais call them only to accompany them (the relationship within Johnny's Jimusho seems to be quite strict when it comes to senior-junior), or if someone more senior in the entertainment business invites him. He might also include drinking with Arashi members as part of work, even if we fans wish it was not true.
Nevertheless, we know he has gaming friends in the entertainment circles, and we know that people comes to his place to hang out (and play game and bring him dinner). Maybe his type of communication is more by working together, be it for real work, or to destroy a monster in a virtual world. ^____^
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Date: 2015-12-01 08:27 pm (UTC)I kinda get him,i'm not confident in giving advices in important situations and i feel it may get awkward..
He likes being alone,there's nothing bad about it (even if i do find him being a bit extreme lol). In the end he meets a lot of people in his work,he did say that he likes doing variety shows so he can compensate his lack of communication out of work.
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Date: 2015-11-29 11:18 pm (UTC)Through this interview I've once again understood that Nino is simply a very reserved person. I recognize in him all the characteristics of a typical reserved person, maybe because me too I'm very reserved and always act the same as Nino. I won't try to justify the reserved persons like me or Nino, but I honestly think that being reserved is not a bad thing actually. I can't find a proper definition, but I'd say it's just a way to live peacefully...
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Date: 2015-11-30 08:27 am (UTC)i guess most people still think that everyone should be sociable and that extroverted people becomes the standard of social value.
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Date: 2015-11-30 12:26 am (UTC)It's interesting to see how Nino doesn't seem to need to share or confide with others.
He makes it look like he doesn't really need it and doesn't really care about hearing others's personal problems either, but a part of me thinks it's his way to protect himself from being hurt.
In that industry might be safer to stay away from sharing your most private concerns.
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Date: 2015-11-30 08:33 am (UTC)i think he mentioned somewhere in the past, that he basically has no interest about himself anyway. Maybe it makes him think there is nothing to confide to others.
the entertainment business is harsh, because everyone expects an idol to be "perfect", in different standards of perfection.
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Date: 2015-11-30 12:24 pm (UTC)Definitely to live as an idol world must be exhausting. So i perfectly understand if he wants to guard himself from possible misunderstandings.
But even when he says he doesn't care about other people problems, it's hard for me to imagine he doesn't care about other Arashi members' problems.
He can't be that cold or self center.
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Date: 2015-11-30 02:01 am (UTC)Thanks for translating and sharing!
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Date: 2015-11-30 01:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-11-30 02:07 pm (UTC)I always love Nino's interview, we can read his weird thoughts sometimes, and somehow reading this interview, i feel a bit alike with him, the not so good to give advice to someone who share their insecurities thing XD haha
Ah, i miss Nino's nikki :(
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Date: 2015-11-30 11:57 pm (UTC)thank u ^^
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Date: 2015-12-02 03:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-12-02 01:22 pm (UTC)Reading through the interview, he is no doubt a very strict and mysterious person. Not the kind of person I'll approach haha.
But that's our Nino anyway
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Date: 2015-12-04 03:37 pm (UTC)I was searching for this since last month.
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Date: 2015-12-04 04:19 pm (UTC)I'm kind a person who likes to think about anything that I want and I love the way of his thought.
e.g. Trying to come to conclusion by watching your surroundings by yourself, making decisions yourself, just keep on repeating these things.
After read this translation, I think I like to improve my way of thinking too.
Nino~ Arigatou ^__^
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Date: 2015-12-08 01:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-12-23 02:38 am (UTC)I'd like to add this translation to our index over at omamori-kotoba. Can you please let us know what year and month of MORE this interview was from?
Thanks for all your hard work!
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Date: 2015-12-23 07:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-12-23 08:03 pm (UTC)If you want us to add your other translations, please let us know the month/year too!
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Date: 2016-01-03 08:48 am (UTC)I also live in a huge capital city where it's very easy to feel lonely but I suppose I don't feel so overwhelmed (at least now) because I know that I'm not alone, that there are many more people that feel the same. I understand where Nino's coming from about someone pouring their heart and feeling the sense of responsibility but sometimes people still just want to talk and it might not even need to be about the problem :) it's a human thing to do haha.
I do wish though, to have Nino's ability to be able to feel fully comfortable when alone. :)